Issue 12 Sep-Oct 2007
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Doing my bit for MAG

On the subject of last issue's star letter. I too am pleased to see people with the background and experience of Dave Short working for MAG and the knowledgeable and credible voice he brings to our platform. I feel miffed that I cannot devote more time to helping MAG, an organisation that I have empathised with for years and have grown to truly respect, but one day I may be able to do more. In the meantime I'll just keep up my membership, sell the cause wherever and whenever I get the chance, lobby MP's when prompted, ride safe, ride free, help MAG fight dumb, impractical legislation on my behalf and try to be a jolly good egg and try not to piss too many people off as I ride through the rest of my life, having the best time I can.
Geoff Cadman

Brunstrom is Right

Thinking about the furore in the media about the actions of Brunstrom and the headless biker case, I can only conclude that he is right in this instance though it was in bad taste.

If it helps to make even one rider use his head and thereby stop him killing someone else, maybe a child, then it is justified. Get rid of Brunstrom by all means, but not for trying to make bikers think about what they are doing.
Archie Beggs, Wirral

Scrap Humps

There's nothing worse than speed humps, take them all out, they all just hold traffic up. Traffic calming just means traffic going very slow, if not stopping. I've seen people driving around the humps, which is dangerous. The emphasis is all on the motorist not too hit anybody, not on pedestrians to watch what they're doing!
Ian, buckled wheel, Eastgate branch.

Humps are Great

I think speed humps are great. I live in a traffic calmed area with a speed cushion outside my house and there's no sound more cheering than a chav grounding his chin spoiler as he speeds through the estate in a lowered Saxo or Nova. They aren't a problem for cars - just slow down to make the ride comfortable, it's what they're for. They do make the road quieter and safer. Bikes obviously have problems: weaving round is alright if there's no approaching traffic, parked cars or other obstructions; doing 30 through a 30 limit can lead to problems with cars behind trying to speed and threatening to overtake as we move toward the kerb to go round a hump and then knock us off as we regain the central position in the lane. A solution would be to put a groove, either at normal road level or gently curved to be 50-75mm above that would let motorcycles through, still cause them to ride slowly but not unsettle bike and rider.
Ian

Re-Branding

I read today that I am to be re-branded - a new logo, revamped magazine, and a relaunch. What annoys me about this the most (not withstanding the fact that we, the membership, have not been consulted), is the fact that I found out about it first in a National motorcycle publication! (the June edition of Motorcycle Monthly, to be precise). Yes, we probably needed an update, but surely the membership should have seen it first?
Andrew Carrott, Life Member.

Ed: I understand where you're coming from Andrew, but would it ever have happened if we'd had a comprehensive consultation exercise? How many dozens of questions would we have had to put to the membership? How many hundreds of views and counter-views and who would have kept control of this huge debate? Democracy is served via the mechanism of the National Committee (NC) whose voting members are all Regional Reps, who are voted in by their region's members. It's just like our parliament, where MPs represent their constituents at Westminster. Please be assured that the decision by the NC to go ahead with this was made after several meetings and presentations from the agency whose services we employed. The news getting out in the bike press was a bit of a faux pas, though.

Re-Launch on Track

Preview of the new website, half page ads in MCN, new logo... from one designer to another - its looking great - spot on! A clean, professional brand/look that will be taken seriously across a much larger target audience, from politicians to the news and media to every aspect of motorcycling on road, on track, off road and within the industry.

Well done MAG - we might well be volunteers out to have a good time, but this does not mean we can not also be professionals getting a job done and this new image conveys just that. It says these people are established, organised and know what they are doing. It is a call to action in itself, telling our peers it's time to join up and telling others they should listen and take notice. I also love the small, but very well executed, changes to 'The Road' magazine. These changes not only tie in well with the new brand, but have given us some of the best looking and cleanly designed spreads yet, (the cover is just breathtaking lads). That is, until I turn to page 52. While it is possibly the first page number we can read with ease (as it's black on yellow), I am now being asked to read white copy on a yellow page, not the easiest on the eye and I, among I'm sure many others, had to reach for the glasses, (if it was not Ferg's World I might not have bothered at all).
Bruce Allinson
Creative Director - The Studio Cooperative

Civil Court Actions

Many of us share the anger inspired by the perpetrators of criminal damage and theft laughing at the Courts, the Police and, more importantly, the victim. Perhaps MAG has a tame lawyer, who would be willing to take the scum to task via the civil courts, asking for compensation for the victim, as well as lawyers fees and other costs incurred, such as the £1,000 reward paid out by MAG for a criminal conviction. It may well be argued that although a court may easily be persuaded to award such costs, it would be difficult in many cases to collect. I do believe that it would be perfectly legal for MAG to publish the names and address of those who have had a civil claim accepted against them by the courts (as such knowledge is in the public domain). MAG members could inform MAG or lawyers of such people, gaining monies by any means legal or otherwise and, in so doing, deprive them of such monies that are rightly the property of the victim. This would send a message to such deviants and reduce criminal activity against riders.
Jimmy Torrance
Criminologist/Diplomat of the International Institute of Security and lifelong Biker.

Ed: A laudable idea, but who foots the bill? Ultimately, it is up to the individual to pursue these matters through the civil process and incur the cost. If the implication is for MAG to pick up the bill then we might as well put all our money into a shredder. Lawyers can cost a fortune and barristers a mortgage.

Crime Pays

In the latest edition of your excellent magazine, I read the article about being charged for recovery and storage of stolen motorcycles. Are the police currently charging/intending to charge car drivers in the same situation? And what about when property is recovered following a house burglary? I feel strongly here that once they start charging for one type of recovery and investigation, it will open the floodgates and soon we will be expected to pay for any type of forensic investigation following any sort of theft. Can you imagine what message this would send out to those who like to profit from a life of crime? It'll be OK to nick stuff, because your average punter can't afford to pay for the forensics, so even if we do get caught with it, we won't get prosecuted. Charming! On another note (and I did read about sticking to one point in a letter, but I like to be economical). I was done for doing 35 in a 30mph zone. I received the letter and form indicating I was going to get prosecuted, so I filled the form in, but did not sign it. Later on I received a summons inviting me to attend court. For some reason I got the court date wrong, and didn't turn up. I was expecting to get the usual 3 points and a £60 fine, but because I didn't attend court, I only got done for 'failing to produce documents'. A £40 fine and no points! I don't know whether I was just lucky, or whether deliberately failing to turn up at court would produce the same result, but I was more than happy with my result!
Anne, Halifax

Ed, Shall I write to the court with your details and check that they haven't slipped up Anne?

Bikes Hitting Cyclists

Whilst my daughter lived in the cyclist's heaven of Cambridge, her flatmate was killed after being knocked from her (pedal) bike by a bus. Cyclists being knocked off by buses is almost a daily occurrence in Cambridge, often with tragic results. However, despite my two offspring living in university towns for a total of nineteen years between them and always being alert to motorcycles being mentioned in the media, neither of them recalls hearing of a pedestrian being killed or injured by a motorcycle. I do not deny that it happens, but considering we are also told that motorcycles only make up two percent of vehicles on the road, it would be surprising if they knocked down more pedestrians and cyclists than the remaining 98%? I wonder if Mr Plowden could tell us how these figures are arrived at?
Mike Baker, Cornwall

BMW C1 Story

Your last issue carried a story about C1s, with a description of events which led to the High Court cases. I was there on the 3rd March 2003, when the case happened, and there were indeed 15 of us riding lidless through Bedford after the case. As you know, Mr Parker then lost at the High Court the following year. No serious challenge to that decision is possible in a magistrates court. Some riders have pleaded guilty, but with mitigating circumstances (i.e. it's clearly pointless wearing a helmet in an armoured shell with the seatbelts on) and got off with no fine or costs. Others have had the fine plus costs levied against them. Bedford, Leicestershire and North Yorkshire CPS have declared it not in the public interest to prosecute C1 riders. The Isle of Wight authorities have yet to give an opinion. London is by far the most unsympathetic area and the police there seem to have a real thing about helmetless C1 riders, even to the point of intimidating them into leaving their bikes in unsafe parts of the city if riding without a helmet. At least one C1 has been badly vandalised as a result. Also it's Sweden, the UK and the Republic of Ireland who require helmets for C1 riders.
Gwyn Harris
C1 C1ub UK member and MAG life member

Bore Them to Death

A traffic officer who pulled me over in December, for riding without a helmet, claimed he was going to arrest me if I rode off lidless on the grounds that a member of the public, not realising the safety features of the C1, might believe that I was a danger to myself riding without a helmet and therefore he could arrest me as a 'reasonable person' could regard me as a danger to myself. After all, anyone can be arrested if they represent a significant danger to themselves or others in the opinion of a reasonable person. I am not making that up by the way, he really did say almost exactly that. After I stared at him open mouthed for about 15 seconds, I managed to engage him in a more reasonable debate and in the end bored him into letting me go on my way with a promise to wear a helmet next time. That said, he'd clearly spent some time planning how he was going to deal with the reckless furry-hat-wearing GP in a C1 he'd seen for the last few weeks, as he was very up on the law and the previous judgements. He just hadn't realised how astonishingly boring I can be on the subject of C1 safety.
Gwyn Birmingham

The ROAD is Normal

I've just received the latest Road magazine and it's like reading a normal motorcycle magazine. What happened to the 'Action' in Motorcycle Action Group? We have a threat today, which I would put on the same scale as the crash helmet law. The government started out by calling it congestion charging, but because they didn't want what happened in London, where people were getting out of their cars onto motorbikes, they changed it to road pricing and included us in it. What action is MAG going to take against it? There is no article in your magazine about what measures you are going to take against this blatant discrimination by this government against bikes. I didn't join MAG way back in the late 1970s so I could eventually end up reading about somebody's bike or holiday and interviews with some old fart who wants everybody to slow down to his level, it's like that safety group (BRAKE? Ed) who, because they've lost somebody in an accident, blame everybody for it and want everybody to pay for their loss. Getting back to the issue, we have trials now all across the country where motorbikes are being included in congestion charging. Something should have been done like a protest from every MAG group in each town against these trials. If there have been, then me and many others haven't heard. I am getting really tired of the motorcycle community and their lack of enthusiasm to protect what they say they enjoy doing. It never ceases to amaze me, the thousands that turn up to these rallies in the middle of nowhere, but when you call for support from them for a show of force against some legislation which is aimed at them and their way of life they are nowhere to be seen. Do I assume that the silent stand MAG is taking against the congestion charges on bikes means we're going to give way once more? It seems the world's full of people who don't want to rock the boat in case it makes waves and don't want to speak too loud in case somebody hears them. I know you won't agree with what I've said here, but I am fed up of writing letters to MPs, papers and television. I even wrote to the one which you were being interviewed by recently, to correct what the interviewer was saying. I am tired of it. I want to see some action I want to see how many so-called motorcyclist class themselves as bikers and how many are willing to stand up and fight.
Gaz

Ed: We need more people like you Gaz, though I think you're overstating your case a bit. Take another look at the last issue of The ROAD and you'll find a full page ad for the Brum demo which was specifically aimed at congestion charging. I think we went to press just before the specific news of Manchester considering charging bikes broke however. It's the way with a bimonthly that you get these long lead times. If I filled 84 pages with politics we'd never recruit anyone on the back of the magazine. Our mission is to provide a balance of interest, amusement and political empowerment. I thought the interview with Stephen Plowden was critical to the political aspect of MAG's work. It's important that people know who we are up against. We often speak of 'faceless bureaucrats' and 'anonymous forces', so I hope it has been of interest to members to put a face to the 'other side'. As for MAG's passive stance on congestion charging, please don't think that, because you haven't seen rioting in the streets, we are doing nothing. There is a place for demos occasionally, hence the Birmingham demo which will have happened by the time you read this. The seriously effective political work is done via face-to-face meetings, however. It is the support of sub-paying MAG members and rallyists who patronise our events that enables us to employ big hitters like David Short who can talk the talk for MAG at the highest level. The concession for bikers from London's congestion charge was an element of the meeting that David had with the Parliamentary Select Committee, where Stephen Plowden questioned the preferential treatment afforded to bikers through the exemption. I recognise that active and enthusiastic people like yourself want to see physical action on the street but, without wanting to devalue street demonstrations, it is important to recognise that they just represent the tip of the lobbying iceberg.
P.S. 'A normal magazine'? What about Ferg's stuff?

The Plowden Interview

What an interesting interview with Mr. Plowden. I can well understand that he is a strong opponent in the lobbies. I have to admit to a degree of support for his views, but without any enthusiasm for his proposed measures. Where I have to object is at his quotation of spurious statistics. When someone quotes statistics in support of an argument they are almost sure to be wrong. This may be for a number of reasons, not necessarily deliberate deception. The fact is, they seem to offer easy solutions (word bites), yet very few people really understand statistics. Mr. Plowden says that 'twice as many cyclists are killed or seriously injured by impacts with motorcycles than with cars'. The government's report 'Road Casualties Great Britain 2005' supplies the following information:

In 2005, the number of accidents in which a cyclist was killed or seriously injured was 2,360. Of these, 1,732 involved a car, 39 involved a motorcycle (of any engine capacity), 17 involved another bicycle, 4 involved a pedestrian, 145 involved no other person and the remainder involved other classes of vehicle.

It is difficult to see how Mr. Plowden's statement can be supported. Indeed, it might be said that after cars, cyclists are their own worst enemy! If someone quotes statistics at you, I think the best response is to ask 'What is the source of your information, so that I may check the context?"
John Osborn, Bristol.

The Plowden Interview

What a blinkered, narrow minded individual Stephen Plowden is (interview ROAD 11). Typical cyclist, I suppose? 'Motorcycles collide with cyclists far more than cars per mile travelled'. Good Grief! That should be blatantly obvious. There are 25 million cars on the road travelling an average of 12,000 miles. How many bikes do an average of 3000 miles? If 250 cars collide with a cyclist and only 1 motorbike collides with a cycle - he is right! What a load of piffle!
Meuryn Howell, Rhondda South Wales

Ed: Oi I'm a cyclist

The Plowden Interview

I have just read the interview with some academic boffin calling himself a researcher, who apparently advises the government. All the way through this interview, in which he seems to be against anything bike, his answers constantly repeat such things as 'I haven't studied the figures' and 'I don't recall that'. Well, if he is such a high ranking advisor to the government of today, no wonder we are going to the dogs. He only seems, in my opinion, to have his own views on how the world should be run and stuff the rest. I also think young Mutch could have asked somewhere in that interview if this researcher had ever ridden or been pillion on a two-wheeled vehicle and could therefore quote from personal research. I am now approaching fifty and have been riding since I was seventeen and can quite categorically say that there have always been nutters on the road and on all forms of transport, not just bikes. This is what needs addressing. I have also seen and had my share of accidents and know what tarmac tastes like, and it's not always been my own fault. If I should choose to use a certain type of transport on the public highway, knowing full well the potential hazards out there, then that is my choice. So Mr academic researcher Plowden, until you have trodden a thousand miles in my oil stained mocassins you can kiss my exhaust.
Joe Godfrey, Southampton MAG

Made in Britain

Ref Geoff Cadman?s letter in The Road issue 11, about black Tucanos - yep it's true, the military paint their training aircraft, such as Tucanos and Hawks gloss black. In the case of the Tucano, they sometimes use yellow flashes, because it is the best colour for being visible to others in the sky. Not sure how well black works as high visibility at road level though, especially when out of town, and the Army do paint their vehicles green and black (albeit matt black) as camouflage! However, he is wrong to say 'Tucanos, beautiful British name for a plane made in er, Brazil'. The aircraft used by the RAF was specially adapted from the Brazilian Embraer Tucano EMB-312, by Short Brothers in Northern Ireland. This involved a considerable redesign, mainly to accommodate a more powerful engine (to meet RAF's requirements) and other British-sourced equipment changes. In addition, the aircraft were manufactured and assembled by Short's in Northern Ireland. I was working at Short's at the time (at their Isle of Man design office) and it was interesting taking the original tooling drawings and converting from Spanish to English! I later went on to work at Boscombe Down, where some Tucanos were based and they are beautiful aircraft and a great success in replacing the old Jet Provosts.
Derrick Williams, Alderney (Channel Islands)

Logo

The new MAG logo requires no imagination at all to see that it flies in the face of everything MAG was set up to stand for. Remember Fred Hill? Fred, in case you'd forgotten, died in prison, incarcerated for riding his bike without a helmet. Every year MAG groups around the country celebrate Fred's brave, almost single-handed action against the law which MAG was first set up to oppose. Fred was for choice. MAG was for choice. In the past MAG has supported others who've been prosecuted and imprisoned for standing up for their belief that we, the riders, should choose. Not now, apparently. So now MAG has decided to put that fight behind it. We have not one but two crash helmets on our logo. That's just the helmets. In my opinion the logo is bland to the point of being invisible. It is not in MAG's colours. It is unremarkable, especially, I suspect, to people who aren't aware of MAG and its aims. Still, the new logo may well be an 'indication of the dynamism, modernity and inclusiveness' that is the 're-branded' MAG. So long as that doesn't include people like Fred Hill who believe in freedom of choice.
Stuart Duckworth

Ed: You're reading the wrong message from the new logo, Stuart. The principle that underpins MAG's stance on helmets is fundamentally what MAG is all about. It reflects the core of MAG philosophy that is common to many other issues, hence helmets in the logo. Two types, to reflect the different types of rider. I appreciate that it will not float everyone's boat, but we are determined to broaden MAG's appeal in order to raise membership numbers. Every change of this nature is a risk and we have taken that risk to try and pull in more members and make a greater impact. We're gambling on our core traditional members like yourself not leaving over something like this, so long as we don't abandon any core principles and we ain't gonna do that.

Why no Headlights?

One of my work colleagues had a crash, in which a woman car driver pulled-out of a side turning into his path. As he was driving a fully loaded 44-ton articulated truck, he had to swerve and brake very hard, but still managed to hit the front offside of the woman's car. It was proven that he was not speeding, had taken all his statutory breaks and was wide-awake. The thing that struck me the most about this incident was that the police kept saying to my collegue 'why are you not driving with your headlights on all the time?' His reply was that it was the middle of the day, he did not have a very wide or dangerous load and that the weather conditions were ideal. The police officer then said that was little excuse as most bus and coach drivers are now instructed by their firms to keep their headlights on, because it has been proven that they then have up to 70% less incidents (I hate the inaccurate word 'accident'). But, at no point did they seem to think that a woman in charge of her car who could not or would not be bothered to look before pulling into the path of something as big as his truck (which is a Volvo FH Globetrotter XL cabbed) is approx 9 ?' wide and over 13' tall. It beggars belief that she is the one who is not being given a hard time, and possibly made to take a re-test. So, everyone please be careful out there, as the victim (my colleague) is not always seen as such it seems.
The Mighty Rock

Ed: This expectation that everyone must burn headlights is a very worrying trend. What's going to happen if we find that there's a drop in accidents if all vehicles are painted lilac? Sorry Rock, I'm going to use the word accident, because if it isn't an accident then it suggests it's deliberate which, however stupid the guilty party may be, is not the case. Let us beware the political correctness of the rabid safety lobby.

Royal Mail Bike Ban?

I recently read an article in MCN about companies that are trying to stop their employees from riding bikes for work use and commuting and so on. One of the firms mentioned was Royal Mail, who I work for. So, as a local MAG rep and a concerned employee I took it upon myself to find out the facts. I sent an email to Royal Mail chairman, Allan Leighton, asking if there was any truth in this. I got a response from Mr Leighton, basically saying that he was unaware of this and that Royal Mail's company policy is not anti-bike and there is no truth in the MCN article as far as Royal Mail is concerned. In fact, Royal Mail is having trials with forms of powered two wheel transport, to see if it can benefit the business.
Geoff Breeze, Southampton MAG

No-one Waves

I've been a MAG member for a number of years now. I've ridden all types of bikes, ranging from a plastic maggot to a hooligan's Bandit and all sorts in-between. In all that time I've waved and nodded at other bikers and had my gestures reciprocated, but it seems to have stopped. I thought 'what's wrong with me?' I still wear the leather jacket, jeans and boots, I've got the obligatory bald head and goatee beard, so what's wrong with me? Then it came to me; I'm riding an old Vespa PX with lots of chrome, silly me! Does it matter what you ride? Have fun and enjoy it. LOL.
Tony

Causes of Accidents

Avon and Somerset Police, Operation Triumph, combating motorcycle casualty rates, have supplied the following: 15% of motorcycle collisions occur while overtaking, 12% during cornering and 30% involve a skid in wet conditions. Assuming no overlap of causes, these figures cover 57% of motorcycle accidents. At a guess, vehicles turning right account for another 30%. Can anyone explain to me how speed cameras address any of these causes? Or drink driving, being distracted by using mobile phone or attending to children in the vehicle?
Mike Baker, Foxhole, St Austell.

Ed: No.

Island Attitude

This picture to me, sums up the island's whole attitude to the TT: "Hey, some bikers wanna race, let's shut the schools for a fortnight, wrap up all the street furniture, close the roads, and ENJOY!" (All the trees and lamp-posts were similarly wrapped. Also, note the black and white kerb edging - this is round the whole course. No overbanding, sunken drainhole covers or potholes there, either.
Mrs Peel, aka Mrs Carey-Clinch

Sports Bikes

Is it just me, or is everyone preoccupied with speed? Every time I witness dangerous and inconsiderate motorcyclists, they are invariably of the 'power ranger' sort. The constant bleating over their supposed right to ride at whatever speed they wish, the stupid wheelies, the full beam headlights. I understand the call for us to stick together as we face anti-bike laws, it's just that when did these people ever speak up on helmet laws? Without a helmet I ride slower, brake earlier and do not feel that I am immortal. I risk no one's safety except my own and I am prepared to pay for medical insurance. A large number of riders appear to delight in riding like idiots and are willing to risk the lives of others into the bargain. Want to ride fast? Keep it to track days and drag strips, not public roads. You are not taking part in a live roleplay of some type of Playstation game.
Adam Chandler

Helmet Technology

I read with interest Andy Bright's letter in The Road on visors and believe that I have found the solution to the problems that he experiences. I have a helmet with a pinlock system, which allows the fitment of an insert. The insert has a silicone seal, which creates a fog free environment. This means that I can keep the visor down at all times and therefore do not get rain and spray on the inside.

The insert that I use is tinted (and marked 'daytime use only'), but is removable in a few seconds and can be replaced with a clear insert, which can be stored under my seat. Should I get stopped by the police I am sure that demonstrating the removal will stop me getting done for a dark visor, and should I get caught out in adverse conditions I can simply remove it leaving the clear outer visor.

I have an Arai helmet, but the pin lock system can be fitted to other makes and I believe that other manufacturers have similar systems.
Iain P, Poole, Dorset

Hello

The Road is undoubtedly an excellent publication - I eagerly await mine arriving through the door. However, articles with white print on a yellow background does not work. It's OK for headlines, but not for articles. As a member of the 'old gits section', I need one pair of spectacles for the computer and another for reading and I would prefer to read 'Ferg's World' without squinting! Keep up the good work.
Dave Goldsmith

Lights On For Me

Andy Carrott is right that lights on all the time can be confusing, however everyone has to manage to ride or drive with lights on at night and manages to do so, and often it's safer than during the day. This is because the confusion and resulting insecurity leads us to be cautious (see soap box in Road 8). Oh, and if all road users had loud pipes we equally would not hear them all due to the confusion of sound, as it behaves similar to light. The aircraft flying out of the Sun is a long established trick, but as road users this only occurs near or at sunrise and sunset when we are travelling away from the Sun. Surely when we do notice we are riding out of the Sun, is it not just as easy to reduce our speed than rely on a dazzled driver to notice our silhouette? The number of road users who can recognise this brief scenario (and I congratulate those who do) is proportionally far less than those who drive in poor light/weather with no lights or are so badly educated as to choose parking lights. My point is simple, in poor conditions any oncoming vehicle in the foreground with no lights on can be easily missed if any other vehicle following does have its lights on. Do we notice Mercury or any other planet when it is between the Sun and us? There are too many road users incapable of concentrating through the many in-car distractions to use lights at the right time in the right way all the time. So, one standard for all, all the time for me has to be the way to go on this issue. Naz, this is not automation or sterilisation of personal choice. We all supposedly drive on the left. We all supposedly stop at a red light. It's a code of conduct, and everyone having lights on once the engine's started would merely be an extension of that code. Our lights are on, we are or may move. Our lights are off, we are parked and going nowhere. I know I am in the minority, but so was Brunel concerning the wide gauge railway. I rest.
Kevin Gladstone

Ed: No it's sterilisation

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